Merge lp://staging/~cprov/squid/snap into lp://staging/~squid/squid/trunk

Why is that a good idea to distribute this "snap" with Squid itself? If it lives inside Squid, it will be more difficult to update and, hence, it is more likely to rot.

The new "parts/plugins/" directory seem to be misnamed -- this "snap" is not a "part" of Squid and is not a Squid "plugin".

Please use scripts/boilerplate.h text for boilerplates if possible.

If these "snap" files are distributed with Squid, then the configuration file should probably be dynamically derived/computed from squid.conf.default. Statically copying the default once means the copy will become stale/inconsistent with what Squid provides.

Alex,

Thanks for the quick response on this.

IMHO, having snapcraft.yaml upstream is actually the best way to keep it from bit-rotting, mainly because it will be visible and owned by everyone actually working on upstream changes. With the advantage of hooking effective CI mechanisms to quickly build (verify) and ship changes quickly, like in https://code.launchpad.net/~cprov/+snap/squid-tip (LP snap *auto*build).

I think it sets the right sense of shared ownership and also provides a very short-pipeline for testing and distributing improvements. While a separate (overlay) branch would take many additional hops and coordination to go from fix-landed to fix-distributed to affected people (the traditional distance between upstream & distributions).

Let me know what you think while I implement your suggestions to make the snap files intervention clearer (boilerplate template, more explicit directly structure, computing a suitable configuration file)

I am not sure I follow your argument. Committing X into Squid source tree might create a sense of shared ownership (whatever that means), but does not automagically keep X up to date. This is especially true for any X that does not affect Squid build and mainstream functionality. For X to actually be kept up to date, somebody active within the Squid project needs to know and care about X enough to keep it updated. AFAICT, there is no such person for X=snapcraft. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Please note that I am not arguing for a separate/overlay Squid branch containing X. I am arguing for a separate project, wiki page, whatever. The Squid Project can recommend and even host that project/page, of course.

In other words, if somebody wants to maintain X that helps folks build Squid but does not need to be tightly integrated with Squid sources and does not have a long-term Squid person behind it, then X should be kept separate from Squid because keeping X separate would decrease overheads for maintaining it and avoid polluting Squid with stale stuff (in case it does become stale).

I agree with Alex.

This is no more or less portable a packaging system that BSD ports, RPM specs, debian/rules etc: its packaging system specific. While I think its entirely appropriate for an upstream project that is publishing e.g. debs to have the rules for that in-tree, the Squid project is not currently publishing snaps for any plaform (and given they are currently Ubuntu-only, that seems unlikely).

Given Canonical is building snappy, has motivation to create and keep the packaging metadata up to date, and (so far at least) noone in squid core is engaged with that, I recommend keeping the snap ruleset in Canonical/Ubuntu's repository as is done for debian/rules.

Note too that the license is incorrect if these *were* to be in squid itself.

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